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Northern British Columbia Fish and Wildlife records

  • GR-1085
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  • 1909-1972

The series consists of records created between 1909 and 1972 by the Northern Division or Northern Region of the Fish and Wildlife Branch and the "D" Division of its predecessor bodies, that relate to the registration and administration of traplines and the trapping industry. For most of the years covered in these records, this division/region consisted of all of British Columbia north of a line from Quesnel to Bella Coola, including these two places as well as Prince Rupert, Kitimat, Queen Charlotte Islands, the Stikine region, Cassiar, McDames Creek, Fort Nelson, Fort St. John and the Peace River region, the upper Fraser River valley of the McBride-Tete Jaune Cache area, the Nechako valley, the Skeena region, and the Prince George area.

The series include early files transferred from the B.C. Police, files regarding First Nations traplines, and individual trapline files, 1922-1969; records on registered guides, including guide report forms and nominal files, 1948-1972; crime investigation reports and conviction record books of violation of fish and game laws, 1930-1967; game management records including subject files on wildlife organization, management activities, and data on various species.

This series contains a large number of maps and sketches from 1909 to 1972, especially relating to the trapline and guide files. Many of these were removed from their files in 1982 and catalogued as two separate sub-series by the Map Division of the BC Archives. An index map of guiding territories was also removed.

See index map of guiding territories catalogued as CM/G6
See sub-series CM/E117 for trapline maps, 1909-1968
See sub-series CM/C2054 (previously CM/S2) for trapline sketches, 1922-1972.

British Columbia. Fish and Wildlife Branch

Stan Carr interview

RECORDED: [location unknown], [196-] SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. Stan Carr talks about the Tete Jaune/Valemount area: old timers and the gold rush; how WWI affected the country; his own history; Dr. Alan Mosley of Tete Jaune Cache; guiding and packing; a story about a Grizzly bear; Mount Robson; the Fraser and Thompson Rivers; and miscellaneous comments. [TRACK 2: blank?];

Pete Lum interview

RECORDED: Premier Lake (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: His beginnings: Kettle Valley to Fort Steele. Art Nicol's outfitting operation. One of the first in the Kootenays. Pete started wrangling. Originally used teepees. Winter and summer work. Collecting mountain goat for New York zoo. Other region guides; Jimmy White, Charley Stevens, A.B. Fenwick. Brother, George, helped guide. Trapping and other work. Summer dude rides at Lake Louise, 1929 to 1939; trailed horses in from Fort Steele. Various trails/routes used at Lake Louise. Hunters and guides fees. Designated hunting territories, circa 1948. Doyle Reay. Operated outfit out of Premier Lake after WW II until retirement at age 80. Gold mining at Wild Horse Creek in 1925. Father had general store at Fort Steele. TRACK 2: Other work done. Packed for mining exploration in Lardeau area circa 1937. Names of other Kootenay guides.

Max Ebert interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.1 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Discussion on placer gold mining at Wildhorse Creek; theory of Lost Lemon Mine; Bull River; hydraulic mining, bottle of gold. Ran air locomotive in Michel coal mines. Description of early outfitter, Billie Boivin. Secret of the diamond hitch. Started wrangling circa 1920 to 1921. Billie Boivin railroading, how he lost his arm, eleven-horse string, dangerous Eastman-Kodak trip. Johnny Lewis. Kettering party, circa 1922. TRACK 2: Early local guides; Nordstrom brothers, Norbou brothers, Chancy Smith. Elk Valley game reserve. Game wardens. Guide's license in 1922. Also guided for Earl McGuiness and Martin Baher. Sheep psychology. Some hunting stories. Browning party. Record goat heads from Berry Creek. Martina and Mike Baher had outfits. Joe Krivensky.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0036.2 RECORDED: Salmo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: Joe Krivensky, continued. Elk Valley hot springs. Alex Clarkson cooked. Circus exploits. Grizzly and black bear stories. Topographical names. Crossbreed oddity. Guided until about 1948.

Jimmy White interview

CALL NUMBER: T0302:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-11-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. James F. (Jimmy) White recalls his arrival in Golden in 1889; his first impressions; a trip to Fort Steele, including a description of the police and the lifestyle; gold mining; Wildhorse Indians; Michael Phillips; Robert Galbraith; ships; Captain Armstrong; prospecting; gold mining; hydraulic mining; and the decline of Fort Steele. TRACK 2: Mr. White continues with more on hydraulic gold mining; the CPR in Cranbrook and Fort Steele; mines -- Sullivan, North Star, Stemwinder and Moyie; Father Coccola; doctors; possible murders in Fort Steele; the cemetery; horse racing and riding; practical jokes.

CALL NUMBER: T0302:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-11-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. White talks about interesting characters, including an incident involving the naming of Tata Creek; other incidents; the Yukon; mining; dancing girls; hunting wild mountain goats and sheep; Indians; Old Kaplo; working in the mountains; men whom Mr. White guided in the mountains; Von Hindenburg's trip. TRACK 2: More about Von Hindenburg's trip; incidents involving bears; the Rockies; and the Selkirks; ministers in Fort Steele; women; families; the red light district incident; the Lum family; English settlers; remittance men; Cranbrook; Golden; gambling; maintenance of law and order in Fort Steele.

CALL NUMBER: T0302:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-11-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. White describes some of the pioneers in the Kootenay such as the Lum family; Tom Cochrane and Lady Adelaide. Then he continues discussing Englishmen whom he guided; settlers; a murderer; named Bulldog Kelly; a grizzly bear incident; Buffalo Bill; more anecdotes involving a runaway girl; the police; More's suicide; Old Ben Pugh attempting to get into jail. TRACK 2: More about Ben Pugh; drinking; Mr. White's arrival in BC; packing with Pugh; reasons why he came to BC; an Indian uprising in Fort Steele in 1886; Michael Phillips; the Mounties; Colonel Steele and the Boer War; William Reginald Wyndham; various anecdotes; Mr. White's English and American clients.

CALL NUMBER: T0302:0004 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1964-11-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mr. White tells a story about the buying and selling of hay; interesting characters such as Billy Hop; claim jumping; more interesting characters such as Jerry Sullivan; an anecdote about a priest drinking; other characters; and one last anecdote about tall stories. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Glenn Walters interview : [Houghton, 1977]

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glenn begins with his birth in 1902 in South Bend, Washington; his mother went down to be with relatives for the birth and returned shortly after. His parents operated a ranch and one of the two hotels in Horsefly. Glen talks of the community when the three major mines were operating; the Hydraulic Mine operated by J.B. Hobson, who was also manager of the Bullion Mine at Likely; the Orientals, who dug ditches and worked in the mines; Ward's Mine; the Miocene Mine; I.D. and E. Co. (International Dredging Co.); the effects on the community of the closure of the mines; Glen began trapping when he was very young and has trapped for over sixty years. He talks about what a trap line is, where his was in the Quesnel Lake area, how much time he spent on the trap line and what he took with him. TRACK 2: Glen continues to talk about trapping; what it was like to live on a trap line for several months, what the trapping cabins were like; a few stories of his experiences on the trapline; about traps; how he sold the fur; how trapping today compares to trapping in the 1920s and 1930s.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Trapping; supplies in trappers cabins; setting traps; stretching and tanning hides; first aid on the trap line; trapping regulations; big game hunting; guiding; began when he was about 19 years old; first time guiding hunters from California; supplies taken by hunters; hunting stones, etc. TRACK 2: Big game hunting; hunting stories; game population; decreasing and increasing numbers over the years; wolves across Quesnel Lake; changes in big game hunting; small game in the area; grouse and pheasant; dressing and preparing meat; brief description of the Williams Lake Stampede in the 1920s.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-06 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Father's ranch; the Walters's Ranch; work around the ranch; hired help; Ah Wee, the Chinese domestic and ranch hand; operations around the ranch; survey of ranches up Black Creek; mining at Eureka Creek in the early 1900s; ranches, pre-emptions along Horsefly Lake Road; ranches in Beaver Valley. TRACK 2: Ranches in Beaver Valley; cattle drives from Horsefly to Ashcroft and Williams Lake as late at the 1940s; early freighting along the Cariboo Road from Ashcroft; team and wagon; trips into Horsefly; freighting with trucks; goods brought into Horsefly; incident at home with family.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0004 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977-07-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen talks about buying a small ranch in Horsefly from his mother and building up the ranch into a working operation; clearing land; seeding; irrigation; haying; Indian crews; trading with locals; winter campgrounds; battle on Cariboo Island and the reason there are no Indians in Horsefly. TRACK 2: 108 Road; original road into Horsefly before the road from 150 Mile; his father had the mail route over 108 Road; original road through Horsefly to Quesnel Lake and across to the gold fields around Barkerville and Keithley Creek.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0005 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen remembers the wild horses in the area before they died out; role of women on the ranches; fencing in the early days; Farmer's Institute; buying seed in the early days; effects of the First World War on ranching, as well as the Depression and the Second World War. TRACK 2: Differences between ranching in the early days and ranching today; early roads around Horsefly; road-building crews; horse graders; corduroying; changeover to power graders; trucks; freighting with trucks and traffic along 150 Road in the 1920s; conditions of the roads.

CALL NUMBER: T2785:0006 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1977 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Glen's father owned and operated the Walters Hotel which was one of two hotels during the early 1900s; the bunkhouses used by miners; the Meiss Hotel; the main hotel also called the City Hotel, had a small store; description of it, saloon, dining room, livery stables, rooms, services provided; patrons; gambling; miners; Walters Hotel also called the Horsefly Hotel; rooms; livery stables; dining room, meals; Harry Walters carried gold for Hobson and was also an early forest ranger. TRACK 2: House of ill repute in Horsefly; hotel patrons; celebrations at hotels; first phone installed in Horsefly.

Charles Doyle Reay interview

RECORDED: Jaffray (B.C.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Recollections of Pete Lum, old Kootenay outfitter. Anton Rosicky. Doyle Reay started on Bull River, 1938. Territories on the Bull River, ca. 1948. Handled two hunters, twenty-six horses. Camps and areas hunted. 1927 fire. CPR tote roads and logging camp at Tanglefoot, 1904 to 1927. Goat locations. Bull Valley one of the best overall game country. Donnaly Slide. Some more recent outfitters noted. Ron Cullen was his wrangler. Trophy hunting. Various American clients. Fees. Problems climbing for a goat. Wounded grizzly story. TRACK 2: Majority of clients were no problem. Details on preparing heads and capes for taxidermy. Strategy for stretching the hunt. Sheep herding between Picture Butte, Alberta and Crowsnest Pass in the early days. Sold outfit to Harry Riddell. Jimmy White and Art Nicol were the oldest guides in the region. Martin Baher guided in Elk Valley. John Dvorak worked in Flathead Valley. Others, Jim and Buster Tegart, Jim Thompson, Buster St. Elio. Comparing past and present game populations. Never advertised. His wife did the books and correspondence.

Films

The series consists of films and footage that depict Tommy and Marion Walker's guiding-outfitting operation at Cold Fish Lake, and the flora, fauna and scenery of the surrounding Spatsizi Plateau. This material documents the operating seasons of 1957 to 1968; events and activities at Cold Fish Lake Camp; the TW Ranch at Hyland Post; packtrains; hunting and fishing trips; the local wildlife; the Walker's annual journeys in and out of the region by horse, floatplane, and automobile; and their winter home at Qualicum Beach on Vancouver Island. Early films were made by Walker as publicity for his guide outfitting business and later films were made to show around the Province in his (eventually successful) attempts to have the Spatzizi designated a park.

Hersch Neighbor interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.1 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: A green kid's first trip wrangling in 1926. A cold forty day trip. Guided for 38 consecutive years. Included Jasper, Tete Jaune Cache, and Pink Mountain. Best game and horse country was ;north of Jasper. Territorial comparison. Curly Phillips was pioneering outfitter. Indians. Hunting territories overlapped at Kakwa (Porcupine) Lake. Various geographic names in Kakwa area / Sheep Pass meadows. Clark's crossing on Smoky River. Die-off of caribou. TRACK 2: Various trips in Jasper Park. Some Jasper outfitters. Brother, Rufe, started about 1918, later partner with Bert Wilkins. Description of Curly Phillips and operation. Ed 'Dad' Neighbor. Park guide badge 1921. Otto Brothers in Jasper. Magazine article. Family move with horses from Tete Jaune Cache to Pink Mountain in 1954. Outfitted from Pink Mountain for ten years. Description of his territory, rivers, game, trails. 1906 police trail noted. Eunice's (wife) involvement in operations. CALL NUMBER: T4105:0017.2 RECORDED: Fort St. John (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Stan Russell's death and burial on Big Shale Hill, 1951. Plaque mounted. George Hargreaves' death and grave. Shovel superstition. Details of bear attack on Harry Phillips at Berland River; on Jack Powell at Prophet River. Blood poisoning incident on dude trip to Kakwa Lake, 1936 or 1937. A lucky wilderness operation on his leg. Changes in outfitting over the years, tents, cooking, stoves and heating, lamps, pack boxes. Game pressure and conservation today. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Georgiana Ball films

The item consists of 20 camera original, unedited films created by Georgiana Ball between about 1957 and 1970. Original films 1-11 and 12-20 were combined onto 2 film reels by the BC Archives upon acquisition.

The film are "home movies", primarily of ranching activities in the Stikine and Liard regions, particularly showing the communities of Telegraph Creek and Trutch. Other locations include Fort St. John, Fort Nelson, Ocean Falls, Dawson Creek, Dease Lake, Stikine River, Mount Edziza and Banff, Alberta. Activities shown include Ball family Diamond B Ranch game guiding operations, ranching, haying, packing and various types of transportation including horseback, pack horses, river boats (incl. Judith Ann), cargo ships (incl. Northland Prince, Skeena Prince), bush planes (North Coast Airways) and helicopters.

Bunch Trudeau interview

CALL NUMBER: T1783:0001 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1968-07-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Florence "Bunch" Trudeau talks about her family, the Bryants, and about growing up in the bush around Tatla Lake and Anahim Lake, 1919 to 1938; the family's arrival and early days in the Cariboo around 1919; the journey to the homestead at Tatla Lake in 1924; recollections of her childhood and upbringing; comments about her father, Cyrus Lord Bryant; miscellaneous travels and experiences in the bush. TRACK 2: Mrs. Trudeau offers an anecdote about her brother injuring his foot and the consequences; events surrounding the birth of her sister's daughter; Christmas at Tatla Lake; childhood games and incidents; and mail days at Tatla Lake.

CALL NUMBER: T1783:0002 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1968-07-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Trudeau describes the school at Tatla Lake; anecdotes about teachers and her school days; a description of a journey to the homestead at Tatla Lake. She describes the people, life and incidents in the Anahim Lake area. TRACK 2: Mrs. Trudeau discusses changes and improvements in household comforts; washing, lighting, cooking and cleaning in a wilderness cabin.

CALL NUMBER: T1783:0003 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1968-07-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Trudeau describes moving to the Euchiniko Lakes area with her own family in 1953; selecting a location for the ranch; experiences on the trip; starting the ranch; life there; starting a hunting lodge; and wildlife in the area. TRACK 2: Mrs. Trudeau tells the story of a pet moose calf during the Anahim Lake days; mice and pets; the nature of the people who lived around Anahim Lake; social gatherings; changes in the area; and people at Bella Coola.

CALL NUMBER: T1783:0004 RECORDED: [location unknown], 1968-07-20 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mrs. Trudeau describes playing with her mother's orchestra at Williams Lake; an incident of her brother and a pistol; a family friend at Tatla Lake; riding mishaps; her grandfather and her father; general comments about members of her family. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Joe Johnson interview

RECORDED: Canal Flats (B.C.), 1982-06-09 SUMMARY: Joe was born and educated in the States. He came to Canada and worked as a cowboy until he took a job with the federal Parks department, working as a hunting and fishing guide until 1927. During the 1930s, he took whatever work was available. Later he became a forest ranger, quit that, and went ranching on the Kootenay River.

Ishbel Cochrane (et al.) interview

RECORDED: Mount Robson Ranch (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Hargreaves family came to Jasper in 1913. Homestead and guest ranch at Mount Robson. 1923 built and operation CNR cabins at Berg Lake. Ray Hargreaves built the chalet later. All five brothers guided and outfitted. Some guides and packers: Art and Ken Allen, Harvey Crate, Dean Swift, Ted Shive, Stan Carr, Chuck Chesser, Don and Dave McMurtry. Trap lines. Ray Hargreaves and Chuck Chesser partnership, 1931. Other workers; Bud Traver, Les Templeman, Bill Blackman, George Korsvik. George Hargreaves death in 1936. Work record stone sheep (Chadwick Ram). Graves in the wilderness. Big name hunters mentioned. Isaac Plante, Deome Findlay. Joachim family. Eddie Moberly. TRACK 2: Eddie Moberly (continued). Murray Cochrane's involvement from 1934. Describing Roy Hargreaves. Boating down Upper Smoky River. Hargreaves' daughter's involvement. Old geographic names in region. Horse fords on Smokey River. Geological Surveys.

William Harrison interview

RECORDED: Blind Bay (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Outfitted climbing camps for Canadian Alpine Club for over 30 years. Various other climbing parties outfitted. Some camp locations. Swiss climbing guides noted. Conrad Kain had own outfit. Other climbers. Description of topographic survey work, 1923 to 1925, under Harris and Bridgeland. Smithsonian geological expedition (Walcott) in southern Rockies. Started as wrangler, circa 1916, for Walter Nixon. CPR dude trips to Lake of the Hanging Glacier. Supplied prospectors/mines in Purcell Mountains. Guiding territory was upper Kootenay Valley. Madeleine Turner. Jim Boyce. Curly Phillips. Hired local men. Freighting work around Radium Hot Springs. Fire warden for Palliser/Ross rivers area. Packing on Big Bend Highway survey, 1928. Columbia Valley trail. High construction during the Depression. TRACK 2: Locations on west slopes of Rockies. Alpine Club camps. Some backcountry dangers. Sold horse outfit in 1978. Over sixty years of horse work in the mountains. Previous tape recording at Archives of Canadian Rockies, Banff.

Owen Philipps interview

RECORDED: Cochrane (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Frank Philipps worked with Interprovincial Boundary Survey, also Brewster's. Started own outfit out of Banff in early 1920s. Banff was summer/fall base after 1923 moved to North Vancouver.; Summer fishing trips. Charlie Phillips (uncle), Alvin Gwyn helped guide. Areas: Palliser River, Royal Group. Some big name American and European clients. Characteristics of German hunters. Helpers: Tom McIvor, Phil Cook, Ray Legace. Philipps used to hire other outfits out of Banff. Wintered his horses at the "Corners". Owen Philipps's initial clients and hunts. Southern extent of hunting areas noted. Billy Boivin, one armed guide. TRACK 2: Used some CPR cabins in the Elk Valley. Used White and Bull Valleys in early years; also Cross and Palliser. Other outfitters; Nixon, Tegart, Bill Richardson. Magazine articles in the 1930s. Preparing capes for taxidermist Horace (Pop) Halloway. Wounded grizzly. Banff Park once included Kananaskis area. Memories of Bill Peyto. Some Vancouver corporate clients. Hunting publicity. Frank Philipps ended up with territory in Northern Rockies, early 1960s.

Ken Thomson interview

RECORDED: Rocky Mountain House (Alta.), 1983-12 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Trapped with Ray Mustard in 1939. Guided for Waddy Watson, Ed Sherbick, Ray Mustard. Most area outfitters focused on area south of Brazeau River. Outfitting surveys complemented hunting. Previously cooked and packed. Cold Lake military range, 1952. Survey work. Surveyors names. Northern Rockies outfitters; Jim Beattie, Leo Rutledge, Mel Kyllo. Ran big operation, three outfits, 100 horses, Ed Mackenzie and Ed Hitchings helped. Hunting parties, length, sheep main objective, Cariboo closed off. Outfitter requirements detailed (regulations). Some cooks and guides noted. Ray Simpson's green grizzly. Description of Brazeau/Job country, campsites, saddle horse. Good mountain sheep areas identified. TRACK 2: Elk. Pinto and Job (Wilson) Lake fish. Packed throughout the Rockies. 113 day geological party in Monkman area. Natural gas seeps. Sulphur springs. Trapping. Death on MacDonald Creek. A ton ten Mexican hunter. Backcountry curios; totem pole, elk antler pile, telephone line horns. Sold outfit in 1957. Son drowned on the Smoky River in 1952.

Arthur Allen interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0001.1 RECORDED: Quesnel (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Swift place in Jasper. Tonquin Valley, 1926. 1929 hunting trip. Climbing Mount Robson, 1924. The Flying Trestle (1931-31). Robson area. Climbing party to Mount Sir Alexander (Kitchi), 1929. Adam Joachim. Bert Wilkins. Curly Phillips; boats and operation, circa 1936; trapping; death in avalanche (1939); retrieving the body. Hargreaves family; Jack, Roy. Berg Lake trips. Brazeau Circle trip with Stan Kitchen 1934. Forty-day dude trips from Devona. TRACK 2: Country and wildlife north of Jasper Park. Wolf and game decline. Various trails. Trips for Jack Brewster. Some; guides/outfitters in Jasper. Big Grave Flats. George Hargreaves death/grave on Sheep Creek, 1936. Indian grave on Pauline Creek. Tuffer party to Jarvis Pass. Darryl Zanuck hunt (Willmore Wilderness), 1930. Zanuck bear hunt on Canoe/Columbia Rivers, 1932 or 1933. CALL NUMBER: T4105:0001.2 RECORDED: Quesnel (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Zanuck hunt, continued. Ted Abrams. Death forced premature boat exit to Revelstoke. River guides mentioned. Eight Mile Canyon near Revelstoke. Four month collecting trip for Carnegie Museum, Pittsburg, 1945 and 1946. Dr. Toomey. Andrew Mellon. Cunningham trip, 1938. Cutter Laboratories, California, hunting trip. Chuck Chesser, outfitter. Topographic survey of Jasper Park north; boundary, summer of 1927 and 1928. Mr. H.F. Lambert, chief surveyor. Grant Hare, packer, left first trip. Prior problems. Frank Burstrom's supply hike. TRACK 2: Permits and licences. Guiding regulations. Sheep and goat north of Jasper. Abercrombie hunting party of Jack Hargreaves. Starting his outfit, 1946. Caribou, areas and decline. Working for Jasper warden service from 1959 to 1971, building cabins. Fording the Smoky River. Grizzly bear incidents. 1931 museum (King) party. Tent Fire. CALL NUMBER: T4105:0001.3 RECORDED: Quesnel (B.C.), 1983-11 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Tent fire continued. Harvey Crate. Buffalo horns found at Mowitch Creek and Glacier Pass. Old Indian campsites and smoke huts. Alex Nellis, warden. Cabins and chalet at Berg Lake. Charley and Dan Bolen. Tom Wilde. Charley McMurtry. Stu Anderson. Rufe Neighbor. Bert Wilkins. Beaver pranks. Hersch Neighbor. Harry Phillips and grizzly bear attack. 'Red" Creighton ran Black Cat Ranch at Brule. Fights recounted. Ranch at Hinton. Solo attempt on Mount Robson by Mr. Waffle in 1930. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Clifford Eagle interview

RECORDED: Lac la Hache (B.C.), 1983-11-21 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Childhood spent around Dog Creek, Alkali Lake, and 150 Mile House. Made money "chasing" coyotes with horses. Ranched and trapped in the Lac La Hache area. Noted for "man-hunting" skills. Details of tracking for lost and dead men. Guided for Ted Ogden and Percy Hamilton. His two guiding areas were Lac La Hache and Crooked Lake. Advertising. Cougar dogs. Moose populations. "Reading bear" story. TRACK 2: Good cooking an important aspect. Operational aspects. Used Indian guides. Wolves and [bounty?]. Other outfitters: Buster Hamilton, Herbie McNeil. Ceased guiding in 1969 or 1970.

Floyd Smith interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Had class A guide's license for 55 years, from 1924 to 1979. On the trail since 1918. Dad, Carl, had outfit in Blairmore; drove Golden Gate stage in Yellowstone Park, 1895 to 1900. Crowsnest area; hunted Castle River, Flathead and Elk Valley. Nordstrom Brothers, Cutch Charlie. Trailed over south Kootenay Pass. Mike Baher. Hot springs in Elk Valley. Areas hunted. Crowsnest background, Frenchie, Charlie (Chink) and Jim Riviere, Buckhorn ranch sold. Guided west of Turner Valley. Started guiding in Banff area for Claude Brewster, 1945. Others mentioned, Alvin Gwyne, Soapy Smith, Art Cartledge. Stoney Indians: rented their horses, good guides for elk, moose, etc. Trophy heads. Yoho Park horse concession with Johnny Boychuk, 1950 to 1954. Summer operation at Assiniboine/Marvel Lake in later years. Some packing for geological surveys, forestry lookouts. Southern Rockies name: Johnny Musgrove, Bert Rigall, Charlie hunter. Photo/lecture tours. Wife, Lillian cooked at Lake Louise, Lake O'Hara, etc. TRACK 2: Hollywood movie work mentioned. Guided for Fred Brewster in Jasper, 1948-49. Tom Vinson. Floyd covered much of Rockies from US border to north of Jasper.; Guided some big name clients. Prices and costs noted. Some reflections on pioneering horse use.

Andy Russell interview

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0043.1 RECORDED: Millarville (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Grew up with a passion for reading, the mountains and horses. Bert Rigall, international reputation, taught Andy guiding, childhood accident, started in 1907, operated out of Waterton Park, 1910. Wilderness summer trips, fifty horses, covered from Flathead Valley to Kananaskis. Major five month trip, Fort Steele to Pine Pass in 1911. Guides license obtained in 1936. Guiding territory in BC was lower Flathead Valley and east tributaries, 1946 to 1960. Used local BC guides. Selective hunting for bighorn sheep. Providing a service. High international outfitters rating. Frank Dvorak. Exclusive outfitting rights in Waterton Park, 110 horses. Recollections and perceptions of grizzly. TRACK 2: Guided famous hunting writers. Wilderness photography. Exposure/experience with big game, horses. Snowstorm problems. Close calls climbing. His film "Grizzly Country": lecture tour for 11 years, making it. Career thoughts. Description of Frenchie Riviere; origins, trailed horses to Fort St. John.

CALL NUMBER: T4105:0043.2 RECORDED: Millarville (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: Frenchie Riviere (continued). Jim Riviere, George Gladstone's stream crossing story. Crowsnest outfits; Frank Dvorak, Martin and Mike Baher, Vensel Dvorak. Leo Rutledge. Recollections of recent conservation battle with oil companies.

Felix Plante interview

RECORDED: Entrance (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Mark Truxler and Carl Lugar worked for him. Average trip was 30 to 49 days. Nine days travel one-way. George Hargreaves buried at Sheep Creek. Smoky River ford at Clarke's Crossing. Large caribou herds. $125.00 license allowed seven trophies, $25.00 per day cost. Tips better than wages. Abundant game meant easy hunting. Successful one-legged hunter and a $1,000 tip. A problem 300 pound 'chesterfield' saddle. Worked for Fred Brewster. Camp innovations; tents, cook stoves, heaters, folding tables. Family moved to mountains in 1914 and trapped on Berland River. Tracking a deer backwards. Forestry work circa 1915 to 1920. TRACK 2: Initially guided for Fred Brewster. Tim Vinson. Abe Rimmer. Guide had to cook on summer dude trips. Early Jasper outfits noted. Park guides license cost $2.50; Alberta one was $5.00. Art Allen. Len Jeck. Started own outfit on hunter's grubstake circa 1936. Summer trips used 60 horses. Adams and Henry Joachim. Retired at age 75. Home made panniers. Earl Anderson and tin panniers. Gunshot accident became unfortunate fatality. Unarmed encounter with huge grizzly.

Eugene Merrill interview

RECORDED: Edson (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Early trapping and moose hunting in the Peace River region. Local guides names. Worked for Stan Clark and Jack Hargreaves in the Jasper area, circa 1938. Art and Ken Allen were head guides. Other Jasper outfits in the 1940s noted. Tips given on summer and fall trips. Pat Smith, Ed and Frank Moberly. Cooks. Hargreaves' area was Sulphur River; trailed in from Devona. Red Ilee. Hunter's death recounted; taking out the body, etc. Worked for Red Creighton's outfit after WWII. Outfitting summer climbing trips, usually 14 days. TRACK 2: Larry McGuire. Transferred into pack troop at Prince George during WWII; specialized horsemen, packed mountain fighters for manoeuvers in mountain parks. Gene was a farrier. A 'unique' discharge. Wife cooked for various outfitters. Various wages for summer and fall trips. Guiding equipment. Fish story regarding Jack Hargreaves. Frank Burstrom and disappearing elk horns story.

Rex Logan interview

RECORDED: Sundre (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Dad and Rex (1939) worked for Brewster's Banff outfit. Art Cartlege. Guy Thomas Cooked. Guided for Stan Kitchen in Jasper, circa 1944. Sold horses to miners in towns between Sundre and Jasper. Tom Vinson. Canol Project, 1943. Some 1940s outfitters; Jerry Verhaege, Del Wing, Eddy Grabiec, Stewart Kidd, Ravio. Old trails and forestry telephone wire. Worked 1944 to 1948 in Jasper. Some Jasper outfits. Hunting territories north of Jasper Park. Politics/regulations. Most hunting trips lasted a month. Summer trips were easier but paid less. Tourist rides. Some on Columbia Icefields with sharp-shod horses. Alaska Highway work. Tom Wilde had major contract on Canol Road and employed Jasper-Banff guides and wranglers at $7 to $9 per day. Had hunting territory in Yukon, 1965 to 1979. TRACK 2: Packing for oil company surveys (1950s) was profitable and covered all east slope areas up to Grand Prairie. Northern trails were Indian trails. Various aspects/logistics of survey trips. Wife cooked. Jim Simpson. Alvin Gwyne. Soapy Smith. Jeff Wilson. Jack Brewster. Red Creighton. Leo Rutledge, Ray Legace, Ray, Vern and Bill Mustard. Frank and Owen Philipps. Walter Nixon. Guy Thomas. Hersch Neighor. Stan Carr. Larry McGuire. Chuck Chesser. Len Jeck. Grizzly attack mentioned. Trophy heads.

Max Hoover interview

RECORDED: Nanaimo (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Guided in Jasper/Robson region between 1925 and 1931. First wrangled for Stan Kitchen. Guides' regulations and responsibilities. Preparation of capes, horse tending. Various hunting trips and durations. Guides paid $10.00 per day. Wounded game. Excellent female hunter remembered. A typical four-hunter party, arrangement and logistics. Murray Cochrane. TRACK 2: Newspaper articles and reminiscences. Hargreaves outfit. Guided with Art and Ken Allen. Hargreaves outfit. Guided with Art and Ken Allen. Hargreaves family, Dick, Ray, George and Frank. Oliver Travers. George Korsvik. Walter Cochrane. Country in Mount Robson region noted. Curly Phillips. Jasper/Lake Louise summer trips for Brewster. Chuck Chesser.

John Boychuk interview

RECORDED: Canmore (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Started in early 1930s; worked for Pat Brewster, Brewster Transport, and Claude Brewster. Grew up in Cypress Hills. Various jobs in Banff from 1927. Pat Brewster outfit; Assiniboine camp, 200 head of horses, short dude trips. Horse assisted hiking trips in Larch Valley, Skoki. A 36-day sightseeing trip from Kananaskis Lakes to Lake Louise. Worked with Harvey Clark, Lance Reigher, Jim Moore, after WWII. Other outfits; Ray Legace, George Harris. One guiding territory was Simpson River; then Panther-Clearwater areas used. Bought horses from Stoney Indians. Yoho Park years and various horse concessions, circa 1948 to 1968. Floyd Smith was early partner. Regulation eventually restricted operation. Packed for Alpine Club in Yoho Park. TRACK 2: Some guides, etc.: Rex Logan, Alvin Gwynne, Ike Mills, Bagley brothers, Jim Burroughs, Brewster's 60th anniversary reunion. Slim Hogan managed the Ya Ha Tinda. Operating pony stable at Canmore.

Pete Bifano interview

RECORDED: Sundre (Alta.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Rex Logan sold horses to miners in Nordegg, Cadomin, etc. Albert Gooey guided for Peter McKillop in local area, Charley Siegfried. Ed Grabiec outfit. Peter worked with Grabiec, Ed Sherbic, Ken Thomson, Johnny Kosteniuk, Herb Blake, Nordegg. Had two strings and mainly worked north of the North Saskatchewan River; Coral, Job and Opabin Creeks. Description of Upper Macdonald watershed. Open hunting gave way to an abundance of outfits/competition. Ken Thomson. Later oil company trips; good pay, hard on the horses. Tough work and bad conditions in the Monkman area. Some favored hunting areas. Fossils. Old Indian Camp on the Bighorn River. Joe Bifano, father, outfitted until circa 1936-37. Used Indian guides from Bighorn Reservation. Packhorse killed by lightning on Sunset Pass, one drowned crossing Brazeau River; broken ribs. [TRACK 2: blank.]

Mathias Baher interview

RECORDED: Sparwood (B.C.), 1984-10 SUMMARY: TRACK 1: Family arrived at Elk Valley in 1902. Worked in coal mines at Luscar, 1923. Two winters trapping in the NWT. Brother Martin, Joe Vlasak and Mathias started outfit, 1929. Early Elk Valley; outfitters/guides; Chancy Smith, Billy Boivin, Neil MacQuarrie, Charley Nordstrom. Hornaday/Phillips trip, 1905, one of the first sporting trips, employed Charlie Smith, Mac and John Narbou, Hugglestone; see "Campfires in the Canadian Rockies" (1906). Old Kootenay outfitters; Art Nichol, Peter Lum. Numerous outfits used the Bull River area. Mathias had 26 horses. Max Ebert. A local shooting incident. Harry Kylar cooked. TRACK 2: Description of guiding territory; Elk Valley, Fording River, Cadorna Creek. Handles two parties simultaneously. Start of Local Guiding Association, circa 1950. Accessing his territory. Trip Length. Cabins used for hunting and trapping. Alberta area: Buffalo Head Ranch. Alberta outfits using BC areas: Frank Philipps, Elk Lakes, Andy Russell, Flathead, Vensel Dvorak. Evolution of access, guiding and hunting pressures in the region. Record trophy heads obtained. Early motion pictures of hunting. His autobiography, "Life and Times of an Elk Valley Sourdough" discussed. Revised edition.

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